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Will bans on flavored e-cigarettes backfire?


NEIL: ALL RIGHT. NEW YORK MOVING TO BAN E-CIGARETTES, THE FLAVORED VARIETY. TO LIBERTY FILE HOST, FOX NATION, SO MUCH MORE, BEST-SELLING AUTHOR, JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO. YOU TOUCHED ON THIS LAST WEEK, AND MANY SAID WE AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU’RE SAYING ABOUT THE DANGER TO KIDS, ET CETERA, BUT BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR. WHAT DID YOU MEAN BY THAT?>>I MEANT THAT PEOPLE, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOUR PRIOR GUEST WAS SAYING, THAT THE PEOPLE NO LONGER HAVE VAPING AVAILABLE TO THEM WILL GO BACK TO CIGARETTES, WHICH IS PROBABLY FAR WORSE FOR THEM, AS BAD AS VAPING IS, CIGARETTES IS WORSE, AND THAT IS REALLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT GOVERNOR CUOMO WANTS. BUT LET ME SAY THIS ABOUT GOVERNOR CUOMO. UNDER THE CONSTITUTION, HEALTH, SAFETY, WELFARE AND MORALITY IS RESERVED FOR THE STATES. SO HE REALLY HAS HIS EYE ON THE BALL. THIS IS NOT A FEDERAL ISSUE. IT MAY BE A NATIONAL ISSUE BUT IT’S NOT A FEDERAL ISSUE. BUT I THINK THIS BANG IS GOING T — BANNING IS GOING TO BACKFIRE ON HIM. NEIL: THIS ISSUE, THIS GOES AGAINST THE REPUBLICAN GRAIN, YOU KNOW, LET BUSINESS DO ITS THING BUT IN THIS CASE, THE ARGUMENT IS, AND THE PRESIDENT HAS ESPOUSED, IT’S KIDS.>>I THINK NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO PROTECT OUR CHILDREN. HAVING SAID THAT, I’M KIND OF APPALLED BY THE THINKING BEHIND THE DECISION MAKING. WHEN WE HAVE A BAD BATCH OF MAD COW, WE DON’T SAY NO ONE SHOULD — SHOULD BAN HAMBURGERS. WE SAY THERE SHOULD BE A RECALL. WE SHOULD FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE SOURCE OF THE PROBLEM, WE SHOULD IDENTIFY IF THAT SOURCE HAS BEEN CONTAMINATED AND WILL BE A PROBLEM GOING FORWARD. THIS NOTION YOU WILL WHOLESALE BAN E-CIGARETTES, WE WILL STILL HAVE A BLACK MARKET. YES, I THINK AS YOU SEE FOR THE CIGARETTE INDUSTRY, I DON’T THINK THE FACT THAT WE DON’T HAVE CANDY CRUSH CIGARETTES IS HURTING THEM. THEY ARE STILL DOING QUITE WELL. NEIL: CLEARLY, JUDGE, IN THAT CASE, WEREN’T THEY CLEARLY MARKETING THAT TO KIDS?>>I THINK THEY WERE. THE NAMES ARE INTENDED TO APPEAL TO CHILDREN. QUITE FRANKLY, THEY ARE LAWFUL PRODUCTS FOR ADULTS. THEY ARE NOT LAWFUL PRODUCTS FOR CHILDREN. SO SHOULD THE GOVERNMENT BE PROTECTING CHILDREN FROM THEMSELVES OR SHOULD THEIR PARENTS BE PROTECTING THEM? HOW MUCH DISSIPATION OF PARENT RESPONSIBILITY AND ASSUMPTION OF PARENT-LIKE RESPONSIBILITY IS THE GOVERNMENT GOING TO ACCEPT?>>JUDGE, TO YOUR EARLIER POINT ABOUT THIS BEING A CONSTITUTIONAL POWER OF THE GOVERNOR, THIS IS THE POLICE POWER, OF COURSE, WHICH PROTECTS THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF INDIVIDUALS WITHIN A PARTICULAR STATE, I ACTUALLY THINK THAT BECAUSE THERE IS SO LITTLE TESTING, SO LITTLE REGULATION OF THIS, IT REMINDS PEOPLE OF A LINE FROM THE MUSLIM BAN, STOP IT UNTIL WE FIND OUT WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE. THERE’S NO REASON, IT’S AN EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT CAN BE UNDONE, IF THERE’S A WAY TO SDEM UNDONE, IF THERE’S A WAY TO SD M DEMONSTRATE THEY ARE SAFE.>>WHEN YOU GO DOWN THIS PATH, IT’S — I WAS LAUGHING, WE SAID ABOUT BANNING ALL MEAT PRODUCTS. I GUARANTEE YOU THERE ARE SOME ON THE LEFT THAT WOULD DO THAT, TOO. NEIL: NOT ON MY WATCH.>>I THINK NANNY PATERNALISM IS SOMETHING THE JUDGE SPENT HIS CAREER FIGHTING AGAINST. IT IS AN INFECTIOUS ISSUE THAT YOU GIVE AN INCH, THEY TAKE TEN MILES.>>HERE’S THE COUNTERPOINT. WHAT ABOUT ABORTION? THAT IS THE POLICE POWER OF A STATE PROTECTING THE UNBORN, BUT I SUSPECT THE CONSERVATIVE VIEW, THE VIEW THE STATE MUST PROTECT THE CHOICES OF GROWNUPS. I DON’T THINK PARENTS CAN CONTROL EVERY WAKING MINUTE OF THEIR CHILDREN’S LIVES. THERE ARE 3.6 MILLION MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOLVAPE E HIGH SCHOOLVAPERS IN THIS COUNTRY.>>THIS IS DONE UNDER THE RUBRIC OF PROTECTING CHILDREN. THERE’S NOT A SINGLE CHILD IN AMERICA WHO CAN CONSENT TO SEX. THEREFORE, NOT A SINGLE CHILD IN AMERICA CAN GET AN ABORTION WITHOUT ANY TYPE OF PARENTAL SUPERVISION.>>I’M TALKING ABOUT THE UNBORN, NOT CHILDREN.>>BUT EVEN IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT FROM AN UNBORN STANDPOINT, THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PROTECTING THE CHILDREN, CHILDREN WHO ARE VAPING ON SOME BASIC LEVEL, THEIR PARENTS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE CONFISCATING THOSE PRODUCTS. NEIL: WE RAN OUT OF TIME. THANK YOU FOR MOVING SO QUICKLY

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  • Yes , it will backfire and cause the black market to grow that will lead to bad products that will harm people more, reduce in taxes for Americans, lost in businesses and jobs from those products, then the violence that prohibition causes…

  • Of course it will backfire in their face, it will just open up a black market for this product, like drugs remember the War on Drugs, how's that working out?

  • I think grown people can make their own decisions without "help" from the federal government. The federal government is trying to get into all aspects of our lives and they have no business there. In any of it, really.

  • The Judge is wrong. The Preamble is not part of the Constitution according to the Supreme Court. I wish that it were, but nothing in the constitution or Bill of Rights give states the right to oversee this issue. Therefore it is a right of the people since it is not spelled out for the State or the Federal government to govern with authority. Now, I hate smoking of all types as a personal choice or even for those around me, but my rights do not usurp another individual's right.

  • Vape liquid is ALL FLAVORED. "Tobacco" is an added flavor just like "berry" or "mint". The nicotine solution has no flavor at all by default. It's blatantly obvious that these politicians have no idea what they're talking about and this is just a way to get more taxes from increased cigarette sales.

  • Ive assumed FROM THE START……..This is all a sham conducted by BIG TOBACCO and PHILLIP MORRIS. ….Which is a BIGGER ISSUE????…Teenage Alcohol Consumption or Teenage Smoking???….Why Not Ban Flavored Alcohol? …TEENAGE DEATHS RELATED TO DRINKING ARE IN HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS YEARLY….TEENAGE DEATHS RELATED TO VAPING…???//Single Digits every 10 years

  • Dems don't care about kids, they abort them

    Dems care about $12 billion in taxes that cigarettes gather every year. make no mistake.

  • So alcohol is legal, and thousands die from drunk drivers? Abortion is legal. I know many who have quit smoking cigarettes, stepped down to JULLS and then quit smoking totally. This makes no sense for adults who JUUL.

  • Right, because only children like candy or fruit flavors. Something that tastes good MUST be being marketed to children, you know, like flavored vodkas. FFS, even the "pundits" sound like morons on this topic. 🙄

  • Thank you! My husband has been vaping for several years and a ban will send him back to cigarettes. Frustrating. Small % effected, impacting the other 99%.

  • The handful of deaths were due to black market products, so they will drive all of the customers to the black market. Brilliant!

  • Just quit cold turkey. I used to smoke for 20 years. Haven’t smoked for almost 10 years. Vapes aren’t going to help you quit especially flavoured.

  • the medical profess kills between 250K to 440K a year due to medical errors you want save lives start there and leave flavorings alone until you got that down.

  • Banning vaping is the British owned tobacco industry's ruse to own the monopoly. They recently purchased the largest purveyor Juul after they railed them into a corner restricting their ability to sell retail.

  • I am a 64 year old man who smoked for 47 years. I've been smoke free 18 months thanks to vaping. My favorite ejuices are Strawberry Watermellon Slushy and Peach Gummy. If you people did your NEWS DUE DILIGENCE 1. you would find it's ILLEGAL for anyone under 18 to buy the stuff they allegedly Vaped. 2. It was almost ALL TNC and CBD products made ILLEGALLY and sold on the BLACK MARKET.
    Please do some RESEARCH.

  • Half the kids at my high school smoked, no one ever said anything about banning cigarettes. Hypocrisy at it's finest. How many have died from cigarettes? The flavored liquids had nothing to do with these deaths. These were from Illegal Thc cartomizers purchased on the streets from drug dealers, period. I've been a vaper for 5 years and feel better than ever. I purchase my liquids legally from vape shops that card me everytime and would never sell to anyone underage. You're punishing the wrong people, but these talking heads know that, go get your check from big tobacco. Tired of adults telling other adults what's best for them and pretending to care, you obviously don't when I can still go buy a pack of cancer sticks anywhere.

  • NY bans vaping for teenagers and legalizes late-term abortions including the killing of "mistakes" in abortion when the child lives…and they are then left to die. Guess this is an example of Ivy League liberal logic….

  • Wake up People, sure looks like the Politicians are probably being paid buy the tobacco industries to Ban vaping to get you to buy and increase the sales of cigarettes. Tobacco companies need this to recoup there losses.

  • Both are bad but the chemical flavored nicotine liquids are far more dangerous actually.Lets take an example ::Little high school Timmy vaping all day everyday thinking .. "it tastes like candy ,it cant be bad" Wrong! NoOne knows theyre long term affects plus the Manufacturer wild cards can put whatever they want in them , harder to monitor and control than regular cicarettes.
    The best case scenario would be noone smoking or vaping any cicarette products , everyone would be just be inhaling fresh Mountain Air, but theres still a long way to get there.

  • Just ban marketing that targets kids like packages with candy and balloons pictured. That’s what they did with cigarettes. I can go get flavored blunt wraps at the corner store right now. They just don’t have flashy wrappings that appeal to children.

  • Stupid. Worry about stuff that doesn’t deal with individual liberties.
    Like crimes committed by our FBI, and others in high places. That would be good to focus on.

  • This sounds so crazy sounds like they just want kids to smoke cus it’s population control to the government what are they gonna do with 5million people not dying a year from cancer there is gonna be more overpopulation

  • (10) 15mL E-Flavors of your choice

    (4) Bottles of E-Base 30mL Ready-to-Flavor E-Liquid

    (3) 3mL syringes with blunt-tip needles for measuring and transferring

    (1) 10mL graduated cylinder for measuring

    (3) disposable 3mL transfer pipettes (another easy way to transfer liquid from one bottle to another)

    (5) pairs of disposable nitrile gloves to help keep you safe and clean

  • If fox hammers this terrible action I will promise to be more open minded about the content overall. Because to use people who are buying from counterfeit dealers. People in the street. One kid said he bought off the street for 2years! Legalize cannabis. This is the result of black markets. People died from bathtub gin too. The teeotoatler is trying to take control of our freedoms again. Will the mafia be in your neighborhood this time?

  • The ban is only for flavored Vapes. 95% of all Vapes are flavoured. It sounds like big tobacco working behind the scenes. 😏

  • I think you MAGATS should teach Cuomo a lesson and smoke 4 packs of cigs a day. Teach him a lesson about individual choice. Bonus if you get cancer within a year. I'll even come to your funeral.

  • The cartels will be happy to expand their product lines to meet demand. The DNC will be sure to introduce any legislation or information needed to make sure it happens.

  • Ban it I make my own… and I’ll make and sell it for the people and you make a market for me and a lot of other people dumb mf

  • Teenagers will NOT pay $10 a pack of cigarettes for very long!
    They will still vape even if they taste tobacco! Addiction does not care!

  • Stop trying to control everyone you don't know any better all this will do is create a new type of drug dealer sort of speak so instead why not try to make vaping safer and better instead of trying to make it illegal to use because we all see how that works out every time you make something illegal also your not are parents we are adults we don't need you to tell us what we can and can't do.

  • Go Ahead Ruin The Economy More Then It’s Already Ruined, Everyone Can Die From Cigarette Cancer & Live In A New Age Great Depression! 😂

  • Adult like flavors as well. I like flavors because it doesn’t taste or remind me of my 20 year old habit I gave up 1 year ago thanks to vaping.

  • BAN ALL FLAVORED ALCOHOL. CDC statistics Excessive drinking is responsible for more than 4,300 deaths among underage youth each year, and cost the U.S. $24 billion in economic costs in 2010. In 2013, there were approx. 119,000 emergency rooms visits age 12 to 21

  • I feel this Is hypocritical. Why not ban smoking tobacco products altogether. Why go after one market. Cigarette smoking has claimed more than 400,000 lives for the past 30 some years and yet a ban has never been offered. This smells of Big Tobacco and Pres. Trump. According to the CDC, from those 400k deaths per year, about 100,000 are youth. Yet no ban. Cigarette has claim about 100,000 youth last year not to mention about the same average in the past years. Come on folks, is the world that blind. If you going to ban on tobacco product, they should ban them all.

  • Judge knows what he's talking about, EXCEPT the candy part. What, because we're adults we don't like candy flavors? What else would you call a candy like flavor? Since when did adults stop liking candy? He lost me on that, but he made good points otherwise. This is about parenting and illegal THC vape, not flavored ejuice.

  • The idiots responsible are obviously anti health – pro lobbyist and pro big tobacco money
    IN THE GUISE OF HELPING CHILDREN…..
    STOP VOTING THESE IDIOTS…. REMEMBER THE PEOPLE BEHIND THESE BANS…
    KNOW THEIR NAMES…. STOP VOTING THEM

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