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The RunCam Phoenix Oscar edition FPV Camera, supplied by Banggood



hello today we'll be taking a look at this runcam camera but just before we get into it a quick reminder please like or dislike this video feeling like it comment down below don't forget to subscribe and click on the little bell if you want to get updated when I release videos so what have we got here well I got four cameras for it wants to review which is quite hard unless you can fit four cameras to court ones which I can't I'd prefer to a concert on each one so I put a pole out there so you good people that YouTube and said which one would you like to see the most and the runaway winner of that one was this this is the runcam phoenix oscar edition it is named so because it was developed in association with Oscar LAN her who I'm sure you know it runs a fantastic blog has YouTube videos but never says anything but a really good reviewer and good at the tech stuff and so he went together with runcam and basically asked him to do a bunch of stuff and they did it why is no one asking for the care acute in addition maybe because I don't know what I'm doing and Oscar does I guess but anyway this is what's in the box so let's take a look at it get the camera itself it's a kind of micro stock camera with an m12 lens so a nice big lens day which tends people have sort of gone to these bigger lenses because they tend to give a better picture it has got a myriad I could do the over the glasses look five faces volts it's got a separate V back plus and then it's got an OSD connection which can also be connected to you are for camera control risk or interesting we'll take a close-up look at this soon as render box you get this to the back not a great deal of stuff in here actually you get this cable which will plug in and it's got nice flexible silicon wires you get this mount this is quite handy because this is a micro style size so if it's going in a small quad you've got ahold to go in directly but if not you've got this and once you install it in here this goes on to sort of more traditional larger frame and you can screw in there which is quite nice and then you've got a bunch of screws so this list is having a wdr sensor I I think in in real cat terms that's that's a CMOS sensor which has wdr because you can flick it from 16:9 to for free and it does pal and ntsc and the thanks got feedback on there also means it supports an OSD on the menu which displays the voltage and potentially other stuff designed especially for daytime flights so it's not gonna need nighttime flying capabilities and I generally flight day so hopefully it should be good so yeah let's let's have a close-up look let's see how the little bits work and we'll go from there so here's the closeup of the back of the camera and as I mention there you've got the voltage input the ground video a separate video so you can either take what's coming in there or if you attached that one it will be separate then you've got the ground and menu for using the Europe sort of menu controlled to do stuff with it as I said they don't supply or that doubles up as a tx/rx to connect to UART for camera control so I just wanted to plug this in to see what we get first off you can see my quad here looks like it's been attacked by a shark and ripped apart so we're let's hook this up to it since we've got all day like this and we'll go from there so all I've done here is I've plugged in my existing connection I just sort of P backed an existing run cam camera thing I had there so I wanted to plug in and see what we've got what we do is just turn my OSD off and you see in the corner there it lit up and saying joystick control which means I can actually use the joystick to go through it and you can see there we've got a whole bunch of things exposure control white balance day/night setting the image enhancement is just quite a lot in it quite a bit more than normal the video setting this lets you go from power 20 see an image ratio I might change after 16:9 for my goggles I don't know if you'll see anything different from it the language and that's about it you've also got and you see it's a joystick control there if you hold upwards then they go into the OSD settings so you can change the name there you'll see we've got pilot timer and voltage on at the moment which shows down there at bottom obviously we're just connecting a via the 5 volt out so we're getting a 5 volt through but rather than changes here what I'd quite like to do is is try this camera control thing and this is as you might have guessed why I've got the top of this thing what I've got at the moment this is an omnibus I'm gonna call it an omnibus type board I'm not sure if it's the original or what it's always so hard to tell these days but what I've got here is these are two yachts this is you are six and three and in TX six is I've got small audio going to my VTX over here and I've just basically I've cobbled a connector that doesn't pin I've cut the other things off and what I want to do is just use the rest of the pins because there's two right at the start here which are our X 6 and TX 6 and if I connect it up to here then I should be able to camera control but one thing I need to do before then is change it over to actually use UART control and to do that you have to short the connection between these two bits here so all i've got is the the little cable i'm going to use to do it and i've just twisted a wire together in a normal quad i would have used that enclosed cable they give me so it would have fit nicely but as i keep swapping cameras and this one is quite nice to keep the original but anyway I've got this twisted together and so all I should need to do is connect the battery and it should move over to your control so yep seems say you got control there so if I unplug now take that out plug in again just to check it yep says you got control which is what was after so my next task now is to take this cable and connect it to this cable which is gonna go into there because I don't have one with six connectors and also get something this is a four connector so I'm going to have two twos going in there one of which is going to take small audio the average is going to take camera control and that's going to sort of stuff in together fingers crossed we hope so I'll wire that up and then what take another look see see if it's looking a little bit cleaner after that point as well as the physical wiring you do need to do one small B to fly a set up change and that is define that you are as having camera control which I've done here for your six and you need to go and be the flight three point three or above for this to work and this cord just meets that requirement okay so you can hopefully see that my little cable here running from the camera into there is there this one has still at the small audio and that one still what the video signal I've just cut one of the connectors down so they don't both fit in together side by side there and that seems fine so what I'm going to do now is connect up the battery and show you how what you can do in fact in your control at the camera I'm gonna move this out of the way because if it gets too close then everything just complains that it's losing connections all the time of stuff right so we're powered on and it's come on as per normal so first thing I'm just going to do is turn my D screen off so you don't have to look at that the way to get into the camera menu is unlike the normal getting into the OSD menu which is that you go middle stick and go to the right and if you then just hit right again you are in the normal camera menu and you can use to your right stick to go up and down and your left stick is basically enter so you can change values with this and you can go in and out with the right stick there and if you go left you'll exit all the way out so yet you can change a whole bunch of things in there and it took me a little while had to figure out how to get into the actual OSD screen for the camera if you hit right once and then you hold up for about three seconds you eventually come into it and the first thing I'm going to do is turn all this off because it's not what I want on my screen when I've already got a stuff how's that that looks better now fort my OSD back on you can see what we're doing anyway if useful if you're gonna be going in and wanting to change bits and pieces if you're like used to flying in different conditions you will probably want to go into here and mess around it lets me mess around if I want to you know go between power and hissy and look at my 69 vs. for free and that sort of thing which is quite useful I don't think it's something I'd use a lot but I just wanted to show you how you set this up and how you'd set up on on this particular camera so flight test next that'll be more exciting well I say flight test next but um I should really get this mounted in place and get the top on just to see how it all goes together first should my so quick jump cut okay there we are all finished you see we've got the camera in there and you will see we're using the adapter to fill in basically the sides here and that goes in the two holes here so it's it's nice and tight not gonna move and shake around also yeah now we are ready to fly let's see how the runcam Phoenix Oscar Edition actually performs so here we are at the field to test and quite good news the Grouse has been cut so I don't risk losing it in the long grass the weather it's kind of sun's out but there's you know there's clouds moving around so pretty good conditions for it but hopefully bit in and out and changing yeah let's see how it goes shall we let's get it flying so here we go our first flight on the Phoenix I'm looking at the colors I'm checking things out but actually the first thing I noted was something something doesn't feel right here something feels wrong and I couldn't quite put my finger on it at first first it felt like the odd frame is being dropped or something from from the camera but then it it's coming through as there's there's a kind of shake to it now there's a little bit of a breeze around I expect a little bit of the movement on the camera from that breeze but this is something call it different and it may not look any different from wind when you look it back on video when you're flying you can just feel that there's something not not there there's there's something very consistent about the shake irrespective of whether you're going through through wind or whatever and it it just wasn't feeling right to me something is not right here and I wasn't happy with it I up the power and the VTX for a quick minute flight as well just to see if that would clear up any of the small amount of noise I've occasionally got going on now as far as the color reproduction goes I'm finding it very natural very good but I can't I can't get away from this shake I just I can't be doing with that so the question will be well is this the problem with your frame and this is the same frame that I've just taken the calyx retail off to try this camera on and if you go back and look at the retail footage you will find it it's very smooth and looking very good and that very different from this one in terms of that shakiness so what to do next hello back again it's the next day and I got the runcam Phoenix this time in the coppice wand which I flew yesterday using a foxy arrow and it was very smooth so I want it just to make sure that there was nothing wrong with the previous frame and see how this does on this rain it's not the same conditions this sister you can probably see that the the trees are blowing around a bit there's a bit more breeze it's very hot that's the big hats on that I'm stood in the shade here but hopefully it's enough to see if we've got a problem with the camera or problem of the frame I'm also flying the foxy arrow on this frame to see if this frame is the thing that's actually producing wobbles so if this is smooth and the other ones not smooth then is definitely not the frame it's a camera but we'll find out so off we go again this time on the coppice one of my favorite chords from a year old or 2 years it's still a great chord anyway but yeah the same things happening now it is a lot windier I might be understating it saying it's a bit breezy so I'm expecting some wobble from the quads and I had real four quads there with me that date and I was getting little wobbles from them but this is on another level of wobble it's still the same thing as it was unfortunately so even though we've moved it over to a known good frame we're having an issue with it the other thing you may have noticed is I had a GoPro session mounted on that frame because I wanted to know okay if we're getting wobbles from this camera what's it going to be like on an HD camera my experience with using HD cameras is that I can get very smooth video from the fpv camera I think that's going to be amazing and I still get wobbles in the HD camera it's never the other way around I never get smoothness from the HD and then wobbles from the fpv camera so this is what the HD footage looks like and you can see we're not having those wobbles we've we've got a pretty smooth image and you can see there that in comparison the Phoenix is jumping around all over the place which which is a shame I think this is telling me it's the Phoenix quite what in the Phoenix is wrong is another question and just this final confirmation here is the arrow on the nebula again there's little shakes from the wind but it doesn't look anything like what the Phoenix looked liked on this the day before it's it's fairly smooth in comparison so before doing that flight I've seats at that the lens was good and tight and in there and there was no apparent movement so after that flight what I did is came home removed a camera and took a look to see if there was any any movement in there and you can see the little liars and so that looked okay so then I unscrew the back to take off the sensor and again the sensor seems to be quite tight this doesn't know where it can really go I do this and nothing happens and I could also say that when this is screwed in and I give it some wiggle there there's there's no movement coming through but that said this whole thing feels like a lens or sensor movement so if you guys are wondering hey why are you showing us this camera that's not working as a review well I thought you might be interested to see what happens actually during the review a review is something that not just happens in in a day or a couple of hours normally I have things for quite a while and I work through different things and we go and try and fly as much as possible and I do things in a sort of a linear fashion so when I'm unboxing it I haven't flown it and done stuff with it it's kind of this is me taking out the box this is me looking at it on the bench for the first time this is me flying it for the first time and sometimes it's like well they don't work very well let's go back and try it again and that's how I do it also I wanted to put the stuff out there about how to use you art camera control because I think that's quite useful depending if you want to change your camera a lot and I thought it might be useful to show what I do in terms of trying to find faults in these things it's basically a comparison against other known working things and we eventually come with a conclusion if like something's not right with this camera so it doesn't mean it's a rubbish camera all manufacturers will have a certain failure rate normally it's in a couple of percent and when a products brand-new it's normally higher that said it's not a complicated product in terms it's got like two parts or three parts night you screw them both to the body but it really does feel like something's wrong with the sensor or the movement in the lens and this isn't necessarily a new feed from runcam when I first got the run camps with micro with a 2.3 more lens that lens was wobbly again it felt tight but it was producing wobble and runcam had to replace the lens they found there was a problem with that meant maybe it's it's the same thing that said I did speak to Oskar Lange about this because I thought he might have a bit of insight into camera he was able to tell me that a couple of hundred of these have already shipped and there wasn't any problems he'd personally tested four of them and they're all okay so I've got no doubt that this is a decent camera if you've got a fully working one it's just I haven't and I mean if you check Oscar's footage out it's really nice it looks great so why I intend to do is show this video and the footage I've got from here to runcam and and try and get a little bit of insight here is this something that is is obviously wrong can you see a problem with a certain component or is this just a case of hey you've got a dud and it needs replacing and of course as soon as I find that out I'll update this video and tell you guys in the meantime of course I can't really recommend the the RAM cam Phoenix having had a broken one so for now I'm still sticking to my guns and saying the calyx Ratelle is my favorite fpv camera and aren't for my money I think it's the best fpv camera out there once this is working and better I'll be able to do a better comparison but it's it's unfair to compare like for like even though like a bit of it's working this camera was supplied by review from Bangert thanks to them as was this one so there will be links down below to all the products here of course and you can check that out in the meantime I hope that review has been helpful I'll be firing it up as soon as possible and I'll catch you next video bye for now well you've made it to the end of the video so thanks once again for watching if you like what you saw then please consider subscribing and if you really aren't what you saw then be sure to check 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  • I always enjoy your reviews. Good stuff. 👍😎🇦🇺I wish it was sunny here in Melbourne, Australia atm. Need to fly 🙁

  • Bad Lens.
    99% it's the internal lens between the front and rear is shaking slightly. Just like the v1 split and the ever ongoing issue with the Foxeer micro Predator lens.

  • The image quality looks really nice, shame about that shakes, it reminds me of when my lens has came loose or my sensor board was loose inside the case, but you’ve checked all that.

    Maybe something internal in the lens?

  • First off – Just imagine how Co0ol your logo would look on a micro camera! AwEs0mE! But, do it with Caddx, as they are truly kicking everyone's AS$ lately! 😉
    Secondly – I think it'd be great to have that camera control to TUNE your cameras color, saturation, sharpness….at least once…just like we do with our TV's…At least I do! I hope people aren't using the factory settings on TV's, as that setting is specifically used for in stores where it's really bright. Notice, the Contrast is typically all the way up – 100%. And that sucks in out homes.
    Thirdly – The Buzzer King shouldn't have to EVER worry about finding his quad in the tall grass! Don't you have a couple of dozen of those different things by now? LOL
    Forthly – I think you are correct – The Caddx Ratel is the very best camera on the market to date! Quite and amazing image!

    Fifthly – Oh just stop it, right now! Enough is enough! D'oh! =(:^)-

  • Isn't that rolling shutter…?…because its a CMOS camera..?…I have had similar issues with CMOS Cameras and it's the reason I wont buy anymore of them TBH. My Runcam Sparrow was very disappointing, it suffered from the Blue blob syndrome in the sky and to a lesser extent, some rolling shutter. My Runcam Swift / Eagles on the other hand is a gem of a camera, because it's CCD. Alarming really, because they are on about stopping CCD Chip production.

  • Great video very informative but FFS take your props off when u power up your quad on the bench man would hate for something bad to happen that would involve a trip to the hospital as im sure your aware of the unpredictability of hobbygrade electronics other than that keep up the great work and reviews 10/10 bro

  • The wobble looks like a borderline frame rate issue with the camera to me, like 15 fps or so, as opposed to any vibration issue? Can certain settings or combinations of settings cause a possible reduction in frame rate?

  • sometimes the sensor board isn't pushed into position enough by the rear plate. a piece of foam between sensor board and back plate could help in that case.

  • Although its been blisteringly hot here in Salisbury, its been crazy windy too and flying fixed wing was no fun today 🙁

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